Planned for the never-completed Mackensen Class battlecruisers. Jackets from unfinished guns were used in building the long-range Paris Gun.
In 1922 there existed thirteen 35 cm SK L/45 guns, 15 naval gun carriages and 13 recoil mechanisms. Not all the series numbers of these guns were kept in the archives, but serial numbers 1 to 9 (the eight guns plus one spare intended for Mackensen) were destroyed at the Wilhelmshaven Arsenals as required by the terms of the Versailles Treaty.
The naval mountings for these guns were to use electric pumps to drive hydraulic elevation gear while the training was all electric. These guns also would have had hydraulically worked shell hoists, rammers and breeches.
Source note: Some sources claim that one of these guns was used at Flanders, but this seems to be a case of mistaken identity. Krupp built a special long-range 35.5 cm SK L/52.5 gun called "König August" which was completed in 1913. This gun was to be used at Calais if the Germans penetrated that far, but was instead used in semi-permanent fortress XII at Quéant in October 1916. It was later at Sancourt and fired at Doulles in 1918.
Designation | 35 cm/45 (13.78") SK L/45 |
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Ship Class Used On | Mackensen Class |
Date Of Design | 1914 |
Date In Service | 1917 (as Field Artillery) |
Gun Weight | about 162,000 lbs. (73,500 kg) 1 |
Gun Length oa | 620.1 in (15.750 m) |
Bore Length | 584.25 in (14.840 m) |
Rifling Length | 487.0 in (12.369 m) |
Grooves | (88 2) 0.138 in D x 0.327 in W at start narrowing to 0.268 in W at muzzle (3.5 mm D x 8.3 mm W to 6.8 mm W) |
Lands | 0.165 in at start widening to 0.244 in at muzzle (4.2 mm to 5.7 mm) |
Twist | Uniform RH 1 in 30 |
Chamber Volume | 15,872 in3 (260 dm3) |
Rate Of Fire | 2.5 rounds per minute |
Type | Cartridge - Bag |
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Projectile Types and Weights 1a | APC L/3,6: 1,323 lbs. (600 kg) 2a 3a HE L/4,2 base fuze: 1,323 lbs. (600 kg) |
Bursting Charge | APC L/3,6: 44 lbs. (20 kg) TNT 4a HE L/4,2 base fuzed: about 88 lbs. (40 kg) TNT 5a |
Projectile Length | APC L/3,6: 49.0 in (124.5 cm)
HE L/4,2 base fuze: about 56 in (144 cm) |
Propellant Charge 6a | Rear Charge: 176 lbs. (80 kg) RP C/12
Fore Charge: 194 lbs. (88 kg) RP C/12 Brass case for rear charge: N/A |
Muzzle Velocity | 2,756 fps (840 mps) |
Working Pressure | 20.0 tons/in2 (3,150 kg/cm2) |
Approximate Barrel Life | 185 - 250 rounds |
Ammunition stowage per gun | 85 - 90 rounds |
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Actual Naval Projectile designations APC L/3,6 35 cm Psgr. L/3,6 HE L/4,2 base fuze 35 cm Spgr. L/4,2 Bdz - ^A Note on Sources: Many English language references show the designation for the Psgr. (APC) projectile with a "(m.Hb)" suffix (projectile with ballistic cap). However, this suffix is not used in any German documentation for this projectile that I have found.
- ^The APC used an aluminum ballistic cap.
- ^APC Burster weight from "German Battlecruisers of World War One."
- ^HE burster weight is an estimate based upon the weight of the 30.5 cm HE base fuze burster weight.
- ^These guns, like most large caliber German guns, used a "fore charge" which was propellant in a silk bag, and a "rear charge" which was propellant in a brass case. The brass case helped to seal the breech of the gun.
Elevation | Distance |
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16 degrees | about 21,870 yards (20,000 m) |
20 degrees | 25,800 yards (23,600 m) |
28 degrees | about 30,730 yards (28,100 m) |
Designation | Two-gun Turrets 1b Mackensen (4): Drh L C/1914 Graf Spee and Fürst Bismarck (4): Drh L C/1915 2b |
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Weight | N/A |
Elevation | -5 / +28.0 degrees 3b 4b |
Elevation Rate | N/A |
Train | Turrets A and B: +150 / -150 degrees
Turrets C and D: +155 / -155 degrees |
Train Rate | N/A |
Loading Angle | +2.5 degrees |
Gun recoil | N/A |
- ^In general, these mountings resembled those of the Bayern class but the guns were given greater elevation. Each gun had a combined projectile/propellant hoist which ran directly to the turret with no working chamber. Battlecruiser Seydlitz had suffered burned out turrets at both Dogger Bank and Jutland (Skagerrak) and a working chamber holding multiple charges was now seen as dangerous. Instead there was a "depot platform" under turrets A, B and C where ready shells, but no propellant, were stored. Special sealing doors isolated the hoists from the shell and powder rooms. Hoists came up between the guns and carried both shell and propellant. As the heavy 35 cm projectiles could be damaged by rolling them, they were now mechanically transferred to the hoists while the fore and rear charges were transferred by means of a tray. At the top of the hoists the projectile and charges were transferred to a munitions car, each of which could supply either gun. Projectiles and charges were loaded into the gun via a hydraulic rammer. As these mountings were somewhat cramped, auxiliary hoists were not provided.
- ^The main difference between the C/1914 and C/1915 was in the thickness of the armor protection, as can be seen in the note below.
- ^Design discussions after Jutland (Skagerrak) included altering the elevation of the C/1914 from +16 to +20 degrees, similar to changes made to other German capital ships. Later this was increased to +28 degrees. The C/1915 started at +20 degrees and this was later increased to +28 degrees.
- ^As these guns had a high elevation, their center of gravity was low, which prohibited manual elevation. An auxiliary electric motor was provided in case the main hydraulic system failed.
Armor thickness given in "Naval Weapons of World War One" by Norman Friedman Drh L C/1914 Drh L C/1915 Face 12.6 in (32 cm) 12.5 in (30 cm) Sides 7.9 in (20 cm) Rear 8.3 in (21 cm) 8.1 in (20.5 cm) Roof Flat 4.3 in (11 cm) 3.9 in (10 cm) Front 7.1 in (18 cm) 5.9 in (15 cm) Sides 4.7 in (12 cm)
"Battleships of the World: 1905-1970" by Siegfried Breyer
"Naval Weapons of World War One" by Norman Friedman
"Große Kreuzer der Kaiserlichen Marine 1906 - 1918" by Axel Grießmer
"German Warships 1815-1945" by Erich Gröner
"Die Geschichte der deutschen Schiffsartillerie" by Paul Schmalenbach
"German Battlecruisers of World War One" by Gary Staff
"German Capital Ships of World War Two" by M.J. Whitley
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