The use of these weapons on the Lord Nelson class proved a mixed blessing. Although the larger projectile could theoretically cause great damage to lightly protected areas, in practice it proved difficult to distinguish between shell splashes from these guns and those made by her 12" (30.5 cm) main guns.
However, their use on the Minotaur class was considered to be more successful. Being employed in twin turrets, this arrangement allowed these ships to fire the same broadside of four guns as did the six single 9.2"/47 guns of the previous Warrior class.
Extracts from Admiral E.C. Troubridge's courtmartial regarding these guns include these comments: "The 9.2-inch Mark XI [guns used on HMS Defence] has always been known as an inaccurate gun. It is probably due to the high muzzle velocity. The 9.2-inch Mark X [guns]. . . are inaccurate at certain stages of wear of the gun. Otherwise they are accurate guns" and "For the 9.2-inch Mark X and XI and 7.5-inch Mark II the average spread [dispersion] was 200 - 250 yards at a range of 7000 - 8000 yards" (180 - 230 m spread at ranges of 6,400 - 7,300 m).
Some additional details for these guns from the June 1914 battle practice for Defence and Warrior; no speeds or courses of the firing ship or target are given: At just under 8,000 yards (7,300 m), Defence scored 5 direct hits and 1 ricochet with her 9.2" (23.4 cm) guns and 8 hits and 1 ricochet from her 7.5" (19 cm) guns. Defence fired 29 rounds from her 9.2" (23.4 cm) guns and 62 rounds from her 7.5" (19 cm) guns in 6 minutes. Her director firing system broke down during the practice preventing more hits being made. At the same range, Warrior scored 7 hits and 5 ricochets from her 9.2" (23.4 cm) guns and 2 hits and 4 ricochets from her 7.5" (19 cm) guns. Warrior fired 40 rounds from her 9.2" (23.4 cm) guns and 19 rounds from her 7.5" (19 cm) guns in 4 minutes 15 seconds.
Construction was of the standard wire-wound pattern with an inner 'A' tube with forward locating shoulders and used a single motion Welin breech mechanism. Most guns used cannelured rings to prevent "steel choke" problems. Used a single motion Welin breech mechanism. Guns with an "A" prefix had a "pure couple" breech mechanism. Two guns were built to an earlier Elswick design with a thinner 'A' tube and smaller diameter chase.
Actual bore length was 50.15 calibers. A total of 45 guns were manufactured of which 12 still survived in 1939. However, the mountings for these guns had been scrapped in 1938 and the guns followed in 1943-44.
HMS Lord Nelson in 1918
HMS Minotaur prior to World War I
|Designation||9.2"/50 (23.4 cm) Mark XI|
|Ship Class Used On||Secondary Battery on Lord Nelson class
Main Guns on Minotaur Class
|Date Of Design||about 1901|
|Date In Service||1908|
|Gun Weight||61,730 lbs. (28,000 kg)|
|Gun Length oa||474.4 in (12.050 m)|
|Bore Length||461.4 in (11.719 m)|
|Chamber Volume||9,000 in3 (148 dm3)|
|Rate Of Fire
|3 to 5 rounds per minute|
1) The Rate of Fire figure given above is found in references, but "Warrior to Dreadnought: Warship Development, 1860-1905" quotes Jellicoe's 1906 figures for rates of fire for these guns in gunlayers' tests and in battle practice and notes that the latter figures corresponded well to those actually attained by the Japanese at Tsushima:
Gunlayers Test: 5 rounds per minute
2) Danger space for this gun against a
30 foot (9 m) target was estimated as follows:
|Projectile Types and Weights||APC 2crh - 380 lbs. (172.4 kg)
CPC 2crh - 380 lbs. (172.4 kg)
|Propellant Charge||128.5 lbs. (58.3 kg) MD37|
|Muzzle Velocity||2,890 fps (881 mps)|
|Approximate Barrel Life||N/A|
|Ammunition stowage per gun||N/A|
|Note: It is believed that the ships with these guns were not issued the more streamlined 4crh projectiles.|
|Elevation||With 380 lbs. (172 kg) 2crh AP Shell|
|15 degrees||16,200 yards (14,180 m)|
|Note: Armored cruisers were considered to have an effective range of no more than 13,000 yards (11,900 m).|
|Range||Vertical Steel Plate|
|5,200 yards (9,140 m)||9.2 in (23.4 cm)|
|Note: Data from "British Battleships: 1860 to 1950" and is for a muzzle velocity of 2,875 fps (876 mps).|
|Range||Vertical KC Plate|
|3,000 yards (2,740 m)||7.0 in (17.8 cm)|
|Note: Data from "The Grand Fleet: Warship Design and Development 1906-1922" for an angle of obliquity of 30 degrees and a striking velocity of 1,928 fps (588 mps). Projectiles were salt-filled (blind).|
Lord Nelson (2): Mark VIII
|Elevation||-5 / +15 degrees|
|Train||Lord Nelson: about +80 / -80 degrees
Minotaur: about +150 / -150 degrees
07 January 2007 - Benchmark
11 February 2012 - Updated to latest template
11 December 2012 - Added gun details and Mark numbers to mountings